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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:29:00 -
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Masao Kurata wrote:If you ever introduce this to TQ you will literally have killed EVE. This is completely anti-sandbox
this is a little extreme however i agree keep it of TQ so long as it never makes it there this is a cool idea |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:37:00 -
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thinking further on it depending on how it is implemented and how much you can mess with it from the outside (even if not the match directly) such as bets and throwing fights perhaps it could be cool and a great way for corps/alliances to train new players in PvP. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:43:00 -
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Gilgamesh BoShudda wrote:Great, so now when I am flying around in FW lowsec looking for frig fights, instead of finding mostly stabbed and cloaky frigs, I will find ONLY stabbed and cloaky frigs. All of the players who would normally be venturing out into FW systems looking for fun fights will instead just stay docked in the hubs. If this ends up on TQ, it will kill frig PVP.
Not true this sort of system caters to another type of player then FW does there will always be the RP pilots and the guys looking to fight dirty. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:58:00 -
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Mangala Solaris wrote:
And seriously you extrapolated all the way to fleet arenas, can I have some of your depression?
no it is a reasonable concern and an understandable fear |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:08:00 -
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Eshnala wrote:Yes please!
And for the people who are complaining about this not beeing EvE and beeing against the sandbox: it will just add another layer of PvP. You are not required to participate in it and there will be plenty of people who wont like it. It just gives the people who are actualy wanting a more skillbased and e-sport directed PvP approach a platform to have exactly that. And i can see a huge benefit for the smaller guy that wants to participate in Tournaments, because they are able to become familiar with the whole system and practice it without that much of an effort.
I hope CCP does look over all the haters and just goes through with it, it wont hurt EvE at all in the end.
The people who are worried are the ones who feel this will affect them by removing people who are currently out in low sec looking for fights so yes it will affect even the ones not interested in it.
as for look over all the haters i would be very disappointed in any developer (fozzie) that would ignore those who think they have a bad idea and just push it through anyway |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:08:00 -
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Gilgamesh BoShudda wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Gilgamesh BoShudda wrote:Great, so now when I am flying around in FW lowsec looking for frig fights, instead of finding mostly stabbed and cloaky frigs, I will find ONLY stabbed and cloaky frigs. All of the players who would normally be venturing out into FW systems looking for fun fights will instead just stay docked in the hubs. If this ends up on TQ, it will kill frig PVP. Not true this sort of system caters to another type of player then FW does there will always be the RP pilots and the guys looking to fight dirty. I think this will cater to exactly the same pilots that FW does. FW offers a chance for players who are new to pvp to find frig fights in a semi-controlled environment (plexes). And as for fighting pilots who fight dirty, what you are saying is that now the ONLY pilots I can get fights from are the ones who will blob me. What a ringing endorsement!
nah you could always jump into a dojo |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:13:00 -
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Sierra Payne wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Sierra Payne wrote:dexington wrote:CCP Veritas wrote:Have you ever wanted a little pewpew but didnGÇÖt have the time to find a fight, or even fit a ship? is this really the crowd you think should be rewarded?, do you really think sugar coated bullshit pvp is going to add anything to the sandbox? Honestly I see it like the following, What happens when you're a new player with no experience in PVP yet you want to learn how to be more effective at flying your ships. Your friend invites you to the dojo so that you can practice a bit more before heading out into the wild and PVP properly against all kind of matchups. Suddenly the quality of pilots rises because they learned better how to fly, making your PVP life more challenging and exciting. Win/Win across the board, provided it's implemented with no rewards or benefits to other people. Surely you get used to these fights, in a completely controlled environment with no way for other people to interfere, meaning that when you try actual PVP, you just die a lot to superior numbers because you still have no idea how ACTUAL pvp works? Is this one giant troll thread? You seem to miss the point. Sure, you are totally right if you are judging it on major fleets, but that's NOT what the dojo has been made for. Myself I honestly have no problems with fleet fights, but I struggle in solo-battles because there's a whole different skillset that's relevant to your battle. Sure, there always will be external factors that influence the outcome. But the idea of a dojo, if properly implemented, would help newer pilots to learn how their ship flies in terms of speed, agility, match ups, transversal/angular/radial velocity etc. Not only that, but having a system such as this in place, again if done right, could spark a lot more PVP content through player-made tournaments.
but this is something they could do even if the dojos are kept off TQ |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:16:00 -
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Sierra Payne wrote:Randolph Sykes wrote:You're messing with the entire ~sandbox~ thing. Don't implement this on TQ, please. This is beyond dangerous for the game. Please elaborate. As far as I can see it, provided it's done correctly, this will help the sandbox a lot more in the long run. It will allow you to run your own tournaments, your own competitions and that adds a layer of depth to the game.
but you can already do those things so they aren't added with this as for being detrimental to the sandbox it is the fact that it is creating a little room in the box that no one can touch |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:17:00 -
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Sierra Payne wrote:
True, you could keep it off TQ but only if CCP allows for direct character copying through an interface. I've bought a toon weeks ago and it still hasn't shown up on SiSi for me. This is an issue that needs resolving. Aside of that I think SiSi or Duality wouldn't be the best choices for this functionality purely due to the nature of these servers as being "test" servers.
the fact that they are test servers is exactly why this is a place for them. test your fits and your skills |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:23:00 -
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Two step wrote:I think this is great, as long as actual ships are lost when things blow up, I am totally fine with it. All the whining about not being able to interfere with the fights is just nonsense. There are plenty of things in EVE that you cannot interfere with right now, like industry, trading and PI. Where is this magic new requirement that you must be able to screw up what people want to do on their own time coming from?
I can mess with your industry by popping your ships or messing with the mineral market i can screw with your PI by blasting your POCO. i can alter your trading by undercutting you |
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:27:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Two step wrote:I think this is great, as long as actual ships are lost when things blow up, I am totally fine with it. All the whining about not being able to interfere with the fights is just nonsense. There are plenty of things in EVE that you cannot interfere with right now, like industry, trading and PI. Where is this magic new requirement that you must be able to screw up what people want to do on their own time coming from? I can mess with your industry by popping your ships or messing with the mineral market i can screw with your PI by blasting your POCO. i can alter your trading by undercutting you You can mess with the ships in the dojo by fighting in the dojo. Undercutting someone on the market is playing within the arena of the market. You don't get the opportunity to blowup the entire market now do you?
I have the opportunity to crash it yes and i affect the market every time i blow something up w/o ever needing to dock.
and i can't mess with ships in someones dojo that isn't mine and that is the problem most are finding with this |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:06:00 -
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Eshnala wrote:Just make the dojo destructable, including everything thats in there. Then you have the option to interfere with it.
and don't make them easy to build put them around the Cruiser level and maybe make the BPCs only spawn in LS |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:36:00 -
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Bei ArtJay wrote:My kid is about to wake up then I'm going to have to go to work after and it's not done patching... WANT NOW!!!!!
Hopefully some folks are on later to try this out, can't wait to have a go.
To everyone whining like the little bitches you are: get out. Vertias spends some time making something fun to give to a part of the eve community that massively respect him as a leaving present and you troll the **** out of him. **** off and get out of this thread you ungrateful **** s. This is on duality and likely never to hit TQ, but would be really awesome if it could be run as a side server for eve-players to develop an eve e-sports scene, so quit pissing your panties and leave us tourney nerds be k thx.
And Veritas, thanks again for all your work at CCP and all the best for the future.
1st what better send off then a troll 2nd most ppl in this thread like the idea and are just voicing concerns if it does find its way to TQ |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:43:00 -
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mynnna wrote: Plenty of risk here - the person that deploys and stocks the Dojo is risking it and everything he puts in it.
Can I assume there will also be loot dropped |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:06:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Kaeda Maxwell wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Kaeda Maxwell wrote:
To the slippery slope folks; This changes nothing the people that are primarily interested in this feature aren't in space for you to fight anyway.
This do not matter. The possibility of non-consensual pvp ANYTIME in any space in new eden is a CORE principle. This idea violates that core principle. You can't un-consensually PvP me in EVE when I'm playing League, because there's nothing left in EVE for me to log in for. if you can't find something to do in eve; you're doing it wrong.
this line of thought is wrong |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:55:00 -
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Turelus wrote:Can I place a carrier in this unscanable/warpable pocket then just not PVP and assign fighters?
this is actually a good question but mostly because i would like to have a carrier or a dread brawl with a few of my friends |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:52:00 -
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Ais Hellia wrote:Talking about unEve features, first of all it's undestroyable stations with untouchable assets, null-secs have been enjoying for years. Why don't you whine about this?
because CCP has already hinted at destroying stations |
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